20 MPH Signage Location

Wed 31 May, 10:56

For information. Link below to the sentencing guidelines for speeding. Worth noting that 41 mph in a 20 zone attracts a much higher penalty than 41 mph in a 30 zone.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/speeding-revised-2017/

Tue 30 May, 16:34

There was a Charlbury person in a blue Honda CRV driving at 50 mph on Spelsbury Rd the other day - I know because I was behind. The person was driving a small child of about 6 years of age. Speeding with a child in the car? 

Sun 28 May, 21:12

People objected to drink driving laws (lives saved), people objected to seat belts (lives saved), slower speeds are more than than just that, it's a change in behaviour from the car obsessed society that exists i.e. walk, cycle, bus, train and have respect for people in doing so i.e how would like someone driving at excessive speed towards you/past you when you are on foot, cycling, with children or just wanting less noise and pollution.

Sun 28 May, 06:23

How much longer does it take driving at 25mph on the Spelsbury Rd instead of 30mph? About 15 seconds. That is going to make a massive difference. 

Sat 27 May, 23:44

Just wondering if there is going to be any gathering/street party to celebrate this huge achievement (20mph speed limit all over the town)? I am guessing a lot of people put a lot of effort to get this sorted🤘

Sat 27 May, 09:34 (last edited on Sat 27 May, 09:35)

I don't think the police will care unless they've been asked to do a speed check. I've driven through Burford several times behind police cars without lights/sirens and they consistently go at 30mph. So I'm sure they'll do the same everywhere else. 

(Advice though pls on what to do about people driving at 25mph on the 30mph from Spelsbury? As I've said several times, my mother may be needing an ambulance for heart failure and I really wasn't impressed to find a Charlbury vehicle doing this yesterday when I was on my way back having had a call to check she was ok) 

Fri 26 May, 18:06

Simon, you've absolutely hit the nail on the head. People do ignore the current restrictions, and when I put my speed limiter on at 20, I invariably get someone right up my... well, tailgate... Meanwhile, the potholes are still there worse than ever, and the white circles around them are fading fast.

Fri 26 May, 17:02

What is the actual benefit in lowering the speed limit to 20mph when you see so many cars ignoring the current 30mph signs?  Hopefully these new signs come with the appropriate enforcement from our police or this will have been a waste of money that could have been spent repairing a couple of potholes?

Fri 26 May, 07:44

From recent schemes, I anticipate there will be a need to ask the County Council to add signs in some fairly obvious spaces.

Fri 26 May, 06:34

Although I agree it's not an excuse for driving at the higher speed, I do feel the need to advocate for people who aren't local, that don't happen to know that it's non permanent paint and not graffiti , and don't happen to know it's a lower than normal speed limit. 

Now thinking of the speed limits following onto side streets, I do think that needs clarification.  But maybe think about the other way round, say you love on a side street, don't know about any of these changes as you drive maybe once a week, or don't follow this forum , you could drive from a side street onto a main street for quite a while before seeing a repeater sign.

I checked this morning , for me I would be on the main for 200m and pass a camera van location before I saw the speed limit.

Thu 25 May, 20:51

It’s non-permanent paint – standard highway authority issue for signs that haven’t come into force yet. OCC uses it at 20mph installations all the time. The Oxford Mail has got very exercised about it because they don’t understand what it’s for (not unusual for the Oxford Mail).

Thu 25 May, 20:46

James - I assume so.

Where the 20mph roundels need supplementing, I have a stock of Correx signs of the kind seen across the county in recent times.  Suggested locations welcome.

Thu 25 May, 20:10

Gareth – is the grey paint sprayed over the 20 numerals on the speed signs around town an impermanent paint applied by the highways authority, to be removed when the limit comes into force? I had assumed it was vandalism, but would be great to hear it isn't?

Thu 25 May, 20:01 (last edited on Thu 25 May, 20:11)

Once you have entered a speed limit (i.e2  20mph) all connecting roads are included.  For example if you drive down a 40mph limited road and you'll see the connecting roads may have the reduced limit, be it 20 or 30 or whatever, if there are no signs the limit will be 40mph.

Thu 25 May, 19:04

Michael - no.  The 30 exists here by default except where advised.  No excuse for speeding.

Thu 25 May, 18:50

Richard , thank you for the information , interesting to see there not putting additional signs up on all side roads.

The way I understand it, is that speed limits don't just " follow on" , there needs additional signage at every road that joins a main road 

 https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

 I did note that some of the new 20 MPH signs are covered , with this , haven't we , even for a short while actually increased the speed limit in some parts to 50 as the 30 is no longer there and the 20 isn't there / legible or enforceable?

Thu 25 May, 17:07

The County Council won’t give legal force to the 20mph limit until the signs are in.  This is why some of them are currently covered.

When that happens, we’ll post details here.

Thu 25 May, 16:57 (last edited on Thu 25 May, 16:58)

https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/charlbury_20mph30mph_crossing2023 – see the Consultation Plan links on the right.

I think the signs are still being installed so probably best to wait until it’s all done.

Thu 25 May, 16:43

First of all my apologies if their has been posted but I couldn't find it.

However I am wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of where all the new signage will be going .

I'm curious as to why we are reducing the main streets to 20 MPH but possibly leaving the side streets still at 30 MPH